In light of the current modernisation of the Defence Forces, Dara Fox and Robyn Hessinger ask several TDs with major defence centres in their constituencies about their record of representing defence issues.
Minister for Public Enterprise, Mary O’Rourke
Sean Power TD,
“Following consultations with both represen-
good example whereby members of the local
Fianna Fáil, Kildare South
area could avail of the facility at times of low
“Kildare South is a relatively new constituen-
cy and has as its bedrock the country’s
duced a Fianna Fáil election manifesto on
equine industry, and also the largest concen-
defence in time for the 1997 general election. Senator John Dardis,
tration of defence force personnel in any of
Progressive Democrats,
the electoral constituencies. The Defence
Fianna Fáil has delivered on the promises
Kildare South
Forces are one of the largest employers in the
made, including the preparation of a White
“I am in the Senate now for nearly 13 years,
and I have participated in all of the debates
gramme of reform to be implemented over a
on Defence Force issues, including sending
derived from service in the Defence Forces.
peace enforcement units to Somalia and else-
In addition, many of those employed in the
where. I have been involved in some of the
services sector are indirectly reliant on the
Defence Acts which have been passed during
Defence Forces for their livelihood.
reform I am aware that change of this mag-
that period. I have also been involved in the
“As a Dáil deputy for some years I have
nitude does impact on those serving in the
negotiations on the reorganization of the
been acutely aware of the problems with the
Forces. In addition I am aware of the fact
Defence Forces, on the result of the White
that key personnel are being poached by the
Paper; I would have been involved in some
private sector and that pay levels have fallen
of the talks that went on subsequent to that.
process appeared intent on delivering only
behind. Managing change of this magnitude
I liaised with RACO during the period that
the negative aspects of reform. Many of the
the White Paper was being actively debated
representations that I received outlined the
importance of a fair and equitable outcome
to the public service benchmarking cannot
urgently required to develop a policy frame-
work within which the reform process could
“At local level I am anxious that where
Partnership for Peace and being part of the
grow and develop. In addition, I was per-
spare capacity exists within the military
Rapid Reaction Force. I think apart from our
suaded of the necessity for the appointment
organisation that it be fully utilised where
of an Ombudsman for the Defence Forces to
practicable by the local community. The new
dimension of Defence Forces’ activity, now
Lebanon, I think we need alternative placesto contribute to world peace and I would like
to see our Defence Forces continue to beinvolved on the international stage in peace-keeping and peace enforcement. The other
aspect is that we have had a reasonableamount of investment in the buildings andthe equipment in the Curragh, but there ismore to do to ensure that we have a modern,properly equipped army that can hold its ownwhen it goes abroad on theses missions. But Iam definitely in favour of the Defence Forcesheadquarters being located in the Curragh.
“The other issue is in regard to bench-
marking; benchmarking is something that Iwould support. In regards to retired person-nel and this matter of the military serviceallowance not being reckonable for pensionpurposes for personnel who retired prior to1990; in my view it should be included intheir pension and I have argued that case atparliamentary party level and with theTánaiste. I will continue to press on that.”
Mary Coughlan TD, Minister of State at the Department of Arts, Heritage, Gaeltacht and the Islands, Fianna Fáil.Mary O’Rourke TD,
Since 1997, I am pleased that this govern-
that considerable monies were spent in the
Minister for Public Enterprise,
ment has recruited 3,000 personnel into the
area of telecommunications, and upgrading
Fianna Fáil, Westmeath
Defence Forces and, under the White Paper
“As a public representative for Westmeath, a
constituency with two Defence Forces bar-
unprecedented €320 million investment pro-
are being vocal in advocating the protection
gramme, including new equipment and facil-
of the two existing military installations in
ities. Over €120 million has been spent so
the county. Obviously Custume Barracks is
Minister Michael Smith in relation to the
far on new equipment. Under a Fianna Fáil-
the headquarters in Athlone and that bar-
led government, this investment programme
progress on modern facilities and equipment,
headquarters. It is absolutely vital that
and the need to ensure that personnel num-
Columb Barracks is not allowed to run down
facilities, training and equipment to allow
in terms of numbers, and so we will certainly
them to carry out the vital role they play
be seeking and continually highlighting the
need for increased numbers of recruits.
“Throughout my period in public life, I
have continued to maintain close links with
people from the area who want to join the
Defence Forces’ representatives bodies,
reflecting the strong and enduring ties which
“I feel that Mullingar has a very impor-
my family has enjoyed with such organisa-
tant role to play because of its geographical
tions and the personnel they represent.”
location. It’s vital from the perspective ofmilitary requirements such as training for
Cllr Willie Penrose
overseas missions. And indeed, as the base
Labour, Westmeath
Mullingar there are a significant number of
pensioners, and they have been in contact
in Mullingar, which by the way is the only
with us in relation to the pension scheme as
remaining artillery barracks left in the coun-
they feel they have been deprived. I will con-
try, means that we have a tremendous tradi-
tinue to highlight the issue of the military
tion of military service here in Westmeath.
service allowance, for there are a number of
Over the years in my role as public represen-
personnel who should have received that.
tative I’ve highlighted concerns of the mili-
tary personnel and other issues such as get-
both in terms of wages, pensions, and the
ting monies to upgrade facilities, particularly
purchase of ancillary services by the military
Councillor Willie Penrose, Labour.
at Columb Barracks. I have to acknowledge
in both Athlone and Mullingar is phenome-
nal - they make a vital contribution to the
local economy. I want to also emphasize the
base camp, with improved facilities.
participation of army personnel in the vari-
“We have got to try to achieve a modern
ous activities and community projects, as
army, as small as we can. For a modern army
they make a vital contribution to the com-
they need to be given the right equipment,
they need to be housed in the right accom-modation, and everything needs to be
Mary Coughlan TD, Minister of State at the Department of Arts, Heritage, Gaeltacht and the Islands, Dan Wallace TD, Fianna Fáil, Donegal South-West Minister of State at the
“Finner Camp is in my constituency, and
Department of the Environment
Lifford and Rockhill, although outside it,
and Local Government, Fianna Fáil, Cork North-Central
Throughout a lot of the south of the county
“I have an extremely close relationship with
Collins Barracks here in the constituency,
Defence Forces, so it’s very important for me
and with many commissioned officers. It has
to keep in touch, and to act when important
long needed upgrading, and in recent years a
substantial amount of capital has been spent
“I met the Minister in recent weeks and
on facilities such as a new NCO’s mess, cost-
received assurances that there is no question
ing over €1.7m, and storage facilities, worth
of Finner closing, and also an assurance that
there will be no amalgamation of Finner and
through for further work. If and when other
Dan Wallace TD, Minister of State at the Department of
facilities are needed I’ll follow it up with the
“A lot of work has been done in the last
the Environment and Local Government, Fianna Fáil.
couple of years renovating Finner. There’s
“Collins Barracks is benefiting from some
still more to be done, including the renova-
for us in the North West and for the fishing
of the recommendations in the White Paper,
tion of the old barracks, transforming it into
fleet and other seafarers and if an accident
which in my view is proceeding successfully.
a small museum, and my role is to push the
did occur, on sea, land, or even in mountain-
It’s important however to remember that
agenda and get it expedited, as I did when I
ous regions, they are rescuing people and
change, however necessary, is never easy, and
helped get a fire tender organised for the
we have to marry the various emphasis of the
“I appreciate and support the efforts of
“While Finner won’t be closed there is a
the army personnel and their peacekeeping
facilities together in a balanced way.
problem in getting new recruits, and the age
duties overseas under the flag of the United
“I’m also interested in the role of our
profile there has increased. There’s a tentative
Nations, and would encourage ongoing par-
Defence Forces internationally. I’ve repre-
agreement to recruit over the next number of
sented the Minister for Foreign Affairs a
years, and it’s right and proper to keep this
James White TD,
months, including at the joint forum of the
Fine Gael, Donegal South-West
ous about civilianisation, and I feel it’s better
done by agreement, and confined to limited
cerned with the fallout from September 11,
types of area. More important is the need for
spokesman, I visited most of the barracks all
and was an opportunity to dialogue in rela-
greater access onto courses and training.
around Ireland looking at that time at the
Currently there is a lot of competition for
bad conditions that they had. I raised lots of
questions in the Dail about these unsatisfac-
that the world is a smaller, more interde-
tory conditions, because the facilities at that
pendent place than ever, and that the future
time were not what they should have been.
participation of our Defence Forces in UN-
mandated cooperative operations is vital.”
Seamus Rodgers TD,
pushed for better facilities, that a lot of the
Labour, Donegal South-West
good facilities that they have now in the dif-
Deirdre Clune TD,
“I am very close to the Finner Camp. I would
ferent camps are because of what I saw when
Fine Gael, Cork South Central
be a strong advocate of retaining the military
“I would be very supportive of the naval base
presence in the area, given that apart from its
significance in relation to security, it is a
Maritime College is a wonderful addition to
source of employment and any income gener-
from the outside has improved dramatically.
the community. I will continue to support
ated for this region is bound to be beneficial.
All the old corrugated, sheeted huts have
The fact that Finner is the base for the air
been replaced. Another thing that I pushed
sea rescue service and that is very important
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